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| S: | Oh the colour and texture is fantastic |
| A: | Biological |
| P: | It should be easy to see these pavement pieces in the context of those triumphs of American painting. |
| S: | More history? |
| P: | Well I always preferred Mark Tobey to Jackson Pollock. Tobey made small paintings with a zen like concentration, an approach which I saw as oppositional to JP's massive pieces. |
| S: | So you've been here before? |
| P: | Oh yes, I try to escape myself, but in truth you can't |
| M: | And your saying that these pieces originate from Tobey? |
| A: | Re invention, it's the hardest thing. Most people mine a familiar niche and then find that they have dug so deep that they can no longer see the original entrance, then there is no escape. |
| P: | But we must try |
| A: | So how about this |
